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Real Name : rizki wardana
Nick name : qq
Address : tangerang
TTL : 08-04-1990
Hobby : drawing n hacking,lol
Likes : girls
Dislikes : she male
Game fave : all da RPG
Anime fave : fullmetal alchemist
Manga fave : naruto,bleach,one piece
Mangaka fave : takehiko inoue n masashi kishimoto
Karakter fave : hanamichi sakuragi
Karakter dibenci : takeshi gota(giant)
Genre fave : action

No. Hp : 08567634xxx
E-mail : rizki_vastolorde@yahoo.com
Fs/Fb: sami mawon

Forum lain yang diikuti : hackercenter,yogyafree,pspiso

Real Name : WD0 Fixens
Nick name : Marco
Address : Holy Street V
TTL : Jakarta
Hobby : Tidur sambil nulis script, baca sambil tidur2an, RP-ing sambil tiduran..... "overall it's a pasive hobbies "
Likes : Jalan2, Kuliner, Anime, Komedi, Pyschology
Dislikes : Dumb people's
Game fave : Radiata Stories, Ace Combat, Front Mission, Harvest Moon
Anime fave : School Rumble, Gurren Laggan, Honey & Clover, CCS, Trigun, Jinroh, Midori No hibi, FMP, etc
Manga fave : Love Hina, Otoko Densha, Gash Bell, Cyborg Kurochan, etc
Mangaka fave : Shinobu Inokuma, Makaoto Raiku, Naoko Takeuchi, Ken Akamatsu
Karakter fave : Marco (ES 21), Matatabi (C. Kurochan),
Karakter dibenci :
Genre fave : Romance Comedy

No. Hp : Selain yang berkepentingan dilarang tanya
E-mail : animixfan@plasa.com
Fs/Fb: tanya tetangga sebelah

Forum lain yang diikuti : ........ dah lama ga foruming

Real Name : Annisa Akbar

Nick name : Akari

Address :

TTL : 23 August 1993

Hobby : Mencari inspirasi, menggambar, membaca buku yang menarik(manga first), nonton anime(terutama yang lucu n sedih, pokoknya ceritanya yang berat n mendalam), main game(RPG first), memandangi bintang(apalagi kalau bintangnya cuma satu, langsung keluarkan kamera).

Likes : Kebudayaan jepang yang unik, Anime, Manga, hal-hal yang aneh, mitos(tapi bukan berarti untuk dipercaya), kucing, sesuatu yang imut n gemesin.

Dislikes : Teh, tante2 penggosip, kedamaian ku terganggu, apalagi ketika aku sedang tidur dan menggambar(pasti ku usir).

Game fave : Suikoden 2, Persona series(Persona 3 the most), tales of series, legend of mana, Fatal frame 1 2 3, Trapt, BlazBlue, Phantasy Star, n masih banyak lagi.

Anime fave : Code Geass, Gintama, Gundam Seed/destiny, Ga-Rei Zero, Shikabane Hime, Spiral, Kuroshitsuji, Nabari no Ou, Shakugan No shana, Zero no Tsukaima, Rental Magica, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, Slam Dunk, Yozakura Quartet, n masih banyak lagi.

Manga fave : Nabari No Ou, Kuroshitsuji, Pandora hearts, Hitsuji no Namida, Charming Junkie, n masih banyak lagi.

Mangaka fave : Takamiya Satoru, clamp, n masih banyak lagi.

Karakter fave : Sakata Gintoki (gintama), Lelouch Lamperouge ( Code Geass).

Karakter dibenci : Nozomu Itoshiki (sayonara zetsubou sensei)

Genre fave :Action, Adventure, romance

No. Hp :
E-mail : kanatani_hocol@yahoo.com
Fs/Fb : kanatani_hocol@yahoo.com

Forum lain yang diikuti : Hmmm...apa ya?

Real Name : Iruna Nurusiyafiteri [?! xD~]

Nick Name : Seraley Kouya.. tapi panggil aja nagi =w=

Addres : di mana aja boleh ~

TTL : BPP , 12-01

Hobby : maen di depan photoshop ampe gempor , nelusuri DA ampe maknyus , maen game ampe ceking [terutama main game PangYa OL xD]

Likes : All hail japan ! xD

Dislikes : Si-ne-tron ~ =w=

Game Fave : PangYa Season 4 ! xD.. [tapi akhir2 ini jadi jarang soalnya sering DC ==;]

Anime Fave : KHR <3 >////< [de one n only] [bah ! xD]

Manga Fave : KHR <3 >////< [de one n only] [bah ! xD] [kopas mode]

Mangaka Fave : Hng.. akira amano , lalu lalu.. ada banyak deh ==;..

Karakter Fave : Hibari Kyouya, Yamamoto Takeshi, [KHR] Ciel Phantomhive [kuroshitsuji],

Karakter di benci : Azuma Yunoki [la corda] == ;..

No hape : PM~
Fb : XIII_ayuzawa@yahoo.co.id
FS : kaw@iii.com

Forum lain yang di ikuti : ada banyak. apakah perlu nagi kasih tahu wan by wan ? xD~

Real Name :Zee B.Bad (fake juga sih)
Nick name :Zee
Address :Malang
TTL :Surabaya,25 Maret
Hobby :Art,baca,renang
Likes :Banyak
Dislikes :sinisme,dendam,hates,etc
Game fave :Lupa namanya!! duh...apa yah?
Anime fave :banyak
Manga fave :Comic party,fushigi yuugi
Mangaka fave : Indonesian n others ^^
Karakter fave :Sailor uranus, Robin (one piece)
Karakter dibenci :
Genre fave :

No. Hp :085649916xxx
E-mail :blue_phegaseus@yahoo.com
Fs/Fb:https://www.facebook.com/phegaseus

Real Name : .... jujur nih? Baiklah. Uli. singkat-padat-dan jelas sekali.
Nick name : Ulaai
Address : Surabaya
TTL : 21 Juni 1996
Hobby : drawing dan menggambar *sama aja yak?*
Likes : membau (serius, beneran lho), books, comics, laptop, internet, bakso
Dislikes : pedas, bau kambing
Game fave : Cooking Dash hahahaha
Anime fave : Naruto, One Piece, Pandora Hearts
Manga fave : Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle, Pandora Hearts, dan banyak yang lainnya ;D
Mangaka fave : CLAMP, Jun Mochizuki, Oda Eiichiro, Masashi Kishimoto, Kubo Tite and moar moar! untuk Indonesia saya suka Sayuko, dan ilustrator Sweta Kartika.
Karakter fave : KIBA INUZUKA from Naruto and UEKI KOUSUKE from TLoU
Karakter dibenci : semua tokoh antagonis... Orochimaru peringkat pertama!!
Genre fave : Romance, Angst, Fantasy, Action, Adventure. Semuanya saya suka kecuali penyimpangan seksual like... Yaoi. atau Yuri.

No. Hp : diberitahukan kepada penanya
E-mail : ulaaifuhfun@gmail.com
FB : Ulaai Fuhfun

Forum lain yang diikuti : Let's JUMP, Infantrum, dan Sujunesia... dan Shineendo.. dan... dan......

Real Name : perlukah...?
Nick name : Panggil aja Fuchsia...
Address : Medan
TTL : 3 April 1991
Hobby : menggambar (udah jelas), ngeliatin gambar-gambar dewa *semoga tau maksudnya*, nge-net, membaca....
Likes : segala hal yang berkaitan sama gambar menggambar....
Dislikes : sinetron indo
Game fave : The Sims...wkwkwwk
Anime fave : Tokyo Magnitude 7.0, Higashi no Eden, dll...
Manga fave : Alive The Final Evolution, Gunslinger Girl, Bakuman, dll...
Mangaka fave : Adachitoka, Takeshi Obata, Urasawa Naoki....
Kalo Indo say suka Is Yuniarto sama Sayuko
Karakter fave : Shinku, Henrietta, Franziska von Karma
Karakter dibenci : cewek Mary Sue di komik Shoujo maupun Shounen...
Genre fave : Slice of Life, Psycological, Seinen, Shounen, Shoujo *entah kenapa saya gak kurang suka josei*

E-mail : tanya saya
FB : tanya saya
Forum lain yang diikuti : indomanga, kaskus, dll tapi gak gitu aktif....

Real Name:emang perlu ka?
Nick Name:rialin aja la, simpel n ga rumit, he
Address:pontianak
TTL:(tempatnya rahasia), 20 Feb 92
Hobby:ngambar(so pasti la), baca komik, kritikin gambar orang lain(padahal gambar sendiri belum tentu bagus,he)
Likes:suasana yang tenang dan damai,kehidupan yang simpel, ga banyak masalah
Dislikes:banyak masalah, tugas n anything yang buat ribet gitu
Manga fav:sekarang lagi penasaran ma black butler n nabari no ou
Mangaka fav:takamiya satoru, mikiyo tsuda(karyanya dia kocak banget),CLAMP, Yuhki kamatani, yana toboso de el el(banyak banget ne, gabisa disebutiin atu2
Karakter fav:sebastian(black butler) ma Yoi-te(Nabari No Ou)
Karakter yang dibenci:karakter antagonis yang ga sekeren Yoi-te

welcum Rialin ^^
moga2 betah disini yawh~~

Real Name :Adit
Nick name :Kapten
Address :Sunter, Jakut
TTL :7 Mei
Hobby :Makan, Gambar,
Likes : sgl Sesuatu yg berhubungan dgn seni rupa
Dislikes : menunggu
Game fave : Lineage 2, DoTa,
Anime fave : One Piece
Manga fave : One PIece
Mangaka fave : Is Yuniarto, Kubo Tite, Oda -senpai, Benny& Mice
Karakter fave : Mice
Karakter dibenci : Semua Karakter yang lebai lebai
Genre fave : Shonen, Comedy, Drama, Action, SUpernatural, Culture, Arts
No. Hp :PM aja
E-mail :PM aja
Fs/Fb:PM aja

Real Name : Vega mandalika
Nick name : Vega , Ve
Address : Surabaya
TTL : 2 jan 1992
Hobby : nggambar, ngegame
Likes : main game
Dislikes : kecoa
Game fave :FF series, tales series, NIPon Ichi game, ar tonelico, Persona, kingdom hearts
Anime fave : haruhi suzumiya , higurashi no naku koro ni
Manga fave : GTO
Mangaka fave : Takeda Hiromitsu
Karakter fave : Naoto (Persona 4), roxas (KH)
Karakter dibenci : karakter geniit, lebay
Genre fave : mistery, RPG

No. Hp : ^^
E-mail :mao.xilveroxas@yahoo.com
Fs/Fb: mao.xilveroxas@yahoo.com

Real Name : Ridwan Syahroni
Nick name : Ridwanted (atau kalo ketemu di jalan, saya dipanggil "Hei", saya juga nengok sih....zzzzzz)
Address : Kebon Jeruk, Jakarta Barat
TTL : Jakarta, 28 September 1989
Hobby : Ngelawak garing
Likes : Makan
Dislikes : Ngantuk di kala sibuk
Game fave : sejenis Tycoon (game simulasi gt)
Mangaka fave : Akira Toriyama, Osamu Tezuka, Urasawa Naoki...

No. Hp : 021-92199149
E-mail : ridwan.grafis@gmail.com
Fs/Fb: ridwan.grafis@yahoo.com

Forum lain yang diikuti : kaskus, milik komik_indonesia

halo kk kk senior semua !!!
salam kenal nih yaaa.. mohon bantuannya ^0^

Real Name : Frederick Osmond Antoinette
Nick name : biasa dipanggil Osmond, tapi "Monde" ja deh
Address : Jl delima 3 blok k no 3, beji permai, depok
TTL : 13-08-1992, di jakarta
Hobby : Gambar, main game, nyanyi, berenang
Likes : kucing, hamster, kura",
Dislikes : orang" yang kasar, palagi ma cewe n binatang
Game fave : Lineage2, ma Suikoden2
Anime fave : Blue submarine 6 n sengoku basara2
Manga fave : jujur Inspirit Arena, tapi kok gak terbit lagi ya yg baru?
Mangaka fave : CLAMP
Karakter fave : banyak, but most Kira Yamato
Karakter dibenci : gk ada
Genre fave : Fantasy, modern fantasy

No. Hp : 08996069640
E-mail : fredericon@yahoo.com
Fs/Fb: fredericon@live.com

Forum lain yang diikuti : gk ada tuh

Nick name :akira
Address :bandung
TTL :30 juni 1991
Hobby :baca manga n nonton anime, tapi ga bakat bikin nyah ==;
Likes :kero daisukiiii~ ><
Dislikes :neko - neko
Anime fave : lucky star, kocak gila! XD~
Manga fave :zuttoooo~ meitantei konan! ..>___<..
Mangaka fave : aoyama gosho, minami kanan, itu yg ska bgt! kaLo suka AJA, mah byk bgt!!
Karakter fave : sebastian *kuroshitsuji* (yg moe juga) ~~a
Genre fave : BL ( shonen ai ) hahahahahhah XD


E-mail : akira.bleach@yahoo.com

Real Name : Delin (panggilan aja yah)
Nick name : sama kayak^
Address : Bandung
TTL : BDG, 15 Februari 1995
Hobby : gambar, baca komik n buku yg rame, nonton dvd, net, browsing, dsb
Likes : Jepang, swedia, animanga, emmm
Dislikes : bubur kacang ijo, kacang ijo, ati ayam ato ati2 yg lain
Game fave : Persona 3 n 4, RO
Anime fave : BLEACH, hetalia samurai champloo, samurai 7, samurai X, kebanyakan yg ertema pedang deh
Manga fave : BLEACH, hetalia, peacemaker, BAKUMAN
Mangaka fave : caetsith, tite kubo, hideazu himaruya, yg bagus weh
Karakter fave : Aizen, sweden, arisato minato, seta souji, yoite, dll
Karakter dibenci : toku ni nai, g ada yg khusus sih
Genre fave : action, komedi, history, sci-fi, dsb

No. Hp :

Spoiler:

E-mail : tandakenapa@yahoo.com/
Fs/Fb: FB= Aizen Sousuke 藍染 惣右介

Forum lain yang diikuti : Azure-life, BACCANO indo forum, Gotei 13, Fatalite city, Pandora Hearts forum, APTX4869, dsb

Real Name : Adi Novianto
Nick Name :
Address : Bagan Siapi-api
TTL : 18-11-1991
Hobby : Gambar, main game
Likes : couklat
Dislikes : ? banyak...
Game Fave : RPG games
Anime Fave :
Manga Fave : Naruto , Bleach, Final Fantasy
Mangaka Fave :
Karakter Fave :
Karakter Dibenci :
Genre Fave : Fantasy, action, comedy
No. Hp : xxxxxx
Email : zanarkand8blitz@gmail.com
fs/fb : zanarkand_winfield@yahoo.com
Forum lain yang diikuti : http://forum.ffcrystalesia.com


Salam Kenal

Real Name : chris yang
Nick Name : gitablu
Address : -
TTL : 28 desember
Hobby : Gambar, game, internet, bengong, mendengarkan musik
Likes : sejarah, musik metal, musik klasik, pedang dan baju besi.
Dislikes : kecoak
Game Fave : RPG, MMORPG
Anime Fave : strawberry panic, maria sama ga miteru, bleach, Jubei chan
Manga Fave : strawberry panic, maria sama ga miteru, bleach, Jubei chan , detektif kindaichi

Mangaka Fave : watsuki nobuhiro, tony wong
Karakter Fave : Hanazono Shizuma, Satou Sei, Kurotsuchi Mayuri
Karakter Dibenci : espada nomer 10, ato nomor nol di bleach, Yammy.
Genre Fave : shonen, shoujo-ai, seinen
No. Hp : xxxxxx
Email : ex_daarling@yahoo.co.id
fb : ex_daarling@yahoo.co.id
Forum lain yang diikuti :
- lautan indonesia
- gamexeon forum
- hotgame online forum
- gotei 13 forum
- kaori nusantara forum
- forum megaxus

Real Name : .... >__> naisho
Nick name : miki sora, miki, micchan, miki-chan
Address : Yogyakarta
TTL : Yogya, 23 Sept
Hobby : nggambar, desain chara, nulis-nulis gaje
Likes : light music, piano pop music
Dislikes : jazz, blues, lagu lawas, anjing
Game fave : dinner dash .___.
Anime fave : DGM, PH, dll yang motion & gambarnya bagus
Manga fave : sama kayak di atas
Mangaka fave : Jun Mochizuki, Adachitoka (lupa nama aslinya)
Karakter fave : Taisuke Kanou
Karakter dibenci : Lenalee Lee
Genre fave : supernatural, adventure, school-life, josei, shounen, shoujo

No. Hp : 085643177375 (sms gaje dan gag ada nama pengirim, gag dibalas)
E-mail : miki.sora0989@gmail.com
Fs/Fb: miki sora

Forum lain yang diikuti : BOHQ, Aria, Gaigaku, 07 Ghost, Neverworld, PH, OM, DGD, Fatalite, Fuyushi, Azure, FMA.

Real Name : Haryo Adi
Nick name : magenta
Address : bandung selatan
TTL : 18 09 89
Hobby : gaming, nonton anime, gambar2 animanga (ori + fanart)
Likes : neko, kompie, calon istri
Dislikes : kuliah
Game fave : left4dead (1&2), touhou series
Anime fave : clannad + after story, schooldays
Manga fave : magister negi magi, ga rei, dll..
Mangaka fave : ken akamatsu
Karakter fave : my OC!!
Karakter dibenci : hm... kayanya sih g ada...

E-mail : ryodbluedragon@gmail.com (termasuk fb)

Forum lain yang diikuti :
kaorinusantara.web.id

Real Name : Rizky Fitriani
Nick name : Riri, Rini, Rii :3
Address : jln. Ayani Bangkinang-kampar .Riau
TTL : jakarta,24 februari 1995
Hobby : gambar manga,, >w< , nonton anime,, baca (komik) , dengerin lagu, njahilin orang, tidur :3
Likes : Kucing nyyauuu~~ coklat~~
Dislikes : hantu, ular , --__--"
Game fave : mm,, jarang main sekarang,, jadi dah lupa.. ^^>
Anime fave : banyak..0u0 tp yg The Best Gundam seed dan Tsubasa Reservoir chronicle..
Manga fave : banyak banget,, susah dijelasinnya.. >w<
Mangaka fave : Yagami Chitose , Arina Tanemura. trus Clamp, trus... =u=a (lupa)
Karakter fave : Lacus clyne, Sakura (clamp)
Karakter dibenci : pokoknya yang jahat , picik dan nyebelin,.. =="
Genre fave :fantasy, action, adventure, comedy X3

No. Hp : ngg.. PIP
E-mail : star5riri_dscure@yahoo.com
Fs/Fb: sama dengan yang diatas.. :3

Forum lain yang diikuti : ngg,, banyak sih,, tapi yang mulai ngikitin terus cuma disni.. ^^>

Real Name : Alwan Faiz
Nick Name : Uryu
Address : Bandung
TTL : 05/02/1997
Hobby : Main Game !!!... Sama Buka Forum !
Likes : Anime
Dislikes : ..emm.... ga ada
Game Fave : RPG games
Anime Fave :Banyak~
Manga Fave : Naruto , Bleach, Final Fantasy, Pandora Hearts
Mangaka Fave :Banyak!~
Karakter Fave : Oz Vessalius, Gilbert Nightray, Byakuya Kuchiki, Renji Abarai, Vincent Nightray, Sharon Rainsworth, Xerxes Break, Banyak !
Karakter Dibenci : First member Espada / Hueco Mundo
Genre Fave : Shounen
No. Hp : +6285720919971
Email : distance_faiz@yahoo.com
fs/fb : distance_faiz@yahoo.com
Forum lain yang diikuti : http://pandora-hearts.forumotion.net and http://s7.zetaboards.com/Al_Revis_Academy/index/


Salam Kenal buat para member !

Real Name : Rosita Lestari (Yeah, I'm the girl)
Nick Name : Arashi Kousetsu
Address : Palembang
TTL : 10/10/1991
Hobby : Baca buku, main game, buka forum
Likes : Anime, Manga
Dislikes : Yuri?
Game Fave : RPG games
Anime Fave : KHR, PoT,
Manga Fave : Naruto , Bleach, KHR, Get Backers
Mangaka Fave : Amano Akira, Megami Tensei
Karakter Fave : Giotto, Tsuna, Hibari, Dino, Yondaime, Tezuka.
Karakter Dibenci : Byakuran >:, , Orochimaru, Kabuto
Genre Fave : Angst (Ffic), Shounen (Manga de el el)
No. Hp : - (g diisi gpp?)
Email : senzai_stanley@yahoo.com
fs/fb : senzai_stanley@yahoo.com
Forum lain yang diikuti : Oozora Gakuen, PLI

Yoroshiku Minna~

Real Name : Azisa
Nick name : Dragonchild
Address : Rumah Komik Komikara, Jl. Yodkali 4 Bandung (mari mampiiiir)
TTL : 21 Juli
Hobby : Nggambar, jalan tak tentu arah, main musik bareng orang, masak, dengerin orang nyerita
Likes : Trees, good food, symbolism, dreams, stories
Dislikes : exclusivism, prejudice, wizards, manipulations
Game fave : Baldur's Gate 2, Knights of the Old Republic 2, Dragon Age
Anime fave : Baccano!, The girl who leapt through time, Paprika, Tekkonkinkret
Manga fave : Yokohama Kaidashi Kikkou (Hitoshi Ashihano), Planetes (Makoto Yukimura), Kanata Kara (Sandman (Neil Gaiman+Various artists)
Mangaka fave : Kyoko Hikawa, Roal Pumpkinbear, Dave McKean, Dustin Nguyen, Milo Manara :p
Karakter fave : Oracle, Catwoman, Tottoro, Hermione Granger
Karakter dibenci : Segala Archetype tokoh utama cowo yang dingin, asosial, dan emo ; tokoh cewe yang adorable, terkesan rebellious, tapi selalu perlu diselametin ; Karakter macem Orihara Izaya di Durarara :p
Genre fave : Urban fantasy, slice of life, science fiction

No. Hp : 0811210620 (Sekalian juga nomer kontak Komikara )
E-mail : childrenofdragons@gmail.com
Fs/Fb: scarlet_dragonchild@yahoo.com

Forum lain yang diikuti : Freakhigh, Everlucid, Indomanga

Hallo!! kami KENDI alias shindy n shilke, yeah kami kembar lho.

Real Name : Shindy? atou Shilke?
Nick name : didi / keke
Address : kelapa gading
TTL : kite berdue lahir 17 agust 1992
Hobby : udah pasi gambar n nyanyi jepang lho!
Likes : kucing, maen game(padahal hrs belajar), nyanyi, nonton anim dll.
Dislikes : dimarahin
Game fave : .hack//g.u vol 1-3, resident evil, raidou kuzunoha, persona 3 n 4, fatal frame 1-3, clock tower, shadow destiny dll.
Anime fave .gray-man, inuyasha, pandora hearts, ghost hunt, higurasi no naku koroni, dll
Manga fave :pandora hearts, tsubasa chronicle, X, alice academy, dll
Mangaka fave : hoshino katsura!!
Karakter fave : Allen walker, haseo, atoli, Kamui, sharon, sakura, dll
Karakter dibenci : tau deh lupa
Genre fave :Horror, love comedy!!

No. Hp : mmmmmm.....
E-mail : didi_hisagi@yahoo.com
Fs/Fb:

yoroshiku onegaisimasu!!!

I'm newest here, please teach me all about manga, of course if you want.


Tenang saja, saya asli Indonesia,

Real Name : Should I tell you?
Nick name : Kuro
Address : Bangunjiwo, kasihan, Bantul, Yogyakarta~
TTL : 21 Februari ~pasti aku yang paling kecil ni,,, TT ^ TT '97
Hobby : Menggambar *lebih ke chara figuran buatan sendiri* denger
musik, main recorder, baca and nonton manga/anime,nglakuin
hal2 aneh~
Likes : Different
Dislikes : Anything "haram" and "echii"
Game fave : I'm not interest
Anime fave : Code geass, Naruto, Durarara, Ichigo Mashimaro, Jigoku
Shoujo, K-on! ,bleach, kimi ni todoke, Deathnote, D-gray man
manymore~
Manga fave : Bakuman, Naruto, Kochimuite Miiko, Manga lepas yang
mutu.
Mangaka fave : Number one, Masashi kishimoto, Ono eriko, Yui Misae~ lupa
Karakter fave : secret
Karakter dibenci : secret
Genre fave : Urban fantasy, slice of life, science fiction, thriller, mecca,
mistery.

No. Hp : secret
E-mail : turnover07@yahoo.com
Fs/Fb: turnover07@yahoo.com

Forum lain yang diikuti : nothing

Arigatou,
hajimemashite, atashi wa Kuro desu...
douzou yoroshiku ne~!!!!